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Introduction to United Front (005) New < Many Minds on the Issue - podcast > How to Re-Associate with Your Body (007) New

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Published June 11, 2017

The first step is figuring out where you are and where you'd like to go. In this episode, we consider how chaos and anarchy don't work for any group entity, internal or external, and how to take a stand and decide you are not going to participate in chaos any longer and invite others to join you. Also includes an effective way to address behaviors that bother you borrowed from The Feedback Model from Manager Tools.

Note: There is an error of terminology in the episode, based on the original blog post (which has been corrected): where we said "anarchy" we meant "chaos" — it is our mistaken understanding of the terms. Our intent was "chaos."

Trigger warning: United Front is a progressive path towards building internal community and it isn't going to be for everyone. However these principles can be used to create communities from chaos both internally and externally so it may be of use to anyone. Please mind your own triggers: there is nothing in this episode that particularly stands out as a common trigger; it addresses internal disorganization and chaos versus communication methods and coming to consensus with few examples.


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Have you seen Mr. Robot on Amazon Prime? Do people ever think that their insiders are real outside people like in fight club and Mr. Robot?I've never heard of this as it sounds like the general confusion between psychosis ie: hearing seeing things outside yourself and more of the dissociative experience of having lots of people sharing one body.

Comment by Karlie on February 09, 2020, at 04:09 PM

No, we haven't seen Mr. Robot (but it's not just on Amazon Prime). However, as to your question — yes, sometimes plurals percieve their insiders as being outside their body. It's part of being dissociated — think out of body experiences. Sometimes "3 inches to the left" is as grounded as we can be (due to chronic pain) — and we have distinct trauma memories where we were definitely more than 3 inches outside our body (sometimes trauma memories are remembered from a 3rd person perspective, like floating in the room and watching what's going on as a spectator).

So, yeah, it's possible to perceive insiders as being outside — it's not "delusional" but can sometimes lead to misdiagnoses as being psychotic. There's nothing wrong with those diagnoses, it's just not what's going on. It's all about dissociation, depersonalization, derealization, etc.

We actually use this as a feature sometimes. We will picture a bunch of us surrounding our body and supporting it. We may sleep in our bed in a big cuddle pile. We are also a trained Reiki practitioner where distance healing work uses out of body travel at times, and have been doing out of body journey work most of our life (even as kids we had that figured out). Delusion or skill? What does it matter if it's a positive experience and non-distressing? So the out of body thing can be good — it's a protective mechanism when there's something really bad going on, and it can also be a positive mechanism to self-soothe, or in the case of Reiki to deliver help or healing to others. : ) Hope that helps answer the question.

Comment by Crisses on February 16, 2020, at 08:03 AM

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